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-F7
09-14-2003, 09:32 PM
The new client is out! Currently being uploaded to GamingAsylum.

Here's what's new:


Public Alpha 0.40 features a slew of bug fixes and additions aimed at creating one of the best war game experiences on the PC. In this stage of development each is roughly balanced with some minor advantages to each, making gameplay much more fun and exciting.

.4J
Fixed, ZPU and SHilka firing Damage
Fixed F-15 simple model
Fixed M1A1 simple model
Reduced splash damage on RPG slightly
Weapons Bunkers wreck model fixed
Oil Fields soound fixed
Reduced grenades and SMAW/RPG damage to tanks (Taleron)
Fixed the ability to remove landmines by support
Added Landmines to support (needed for fix)


.4I
Added updated Basrahs Edge
Updated Lada and Pickup truck and removed logos
Updated firearms to allow longer fire fights (less damage per shot), This promotes teamwork since battles will last a bit longer.
Fixed Docks board, please reinstall .38d, .39k and .4I for this fix.
Made Hind have same rocket layout as Apache for balancing
Added updated Oil Fields, all new control points
Sniper rifles returned to strong zoom. Some recoil effects fixed.
Tracer damage and behaviors adjusted for M249 and PKM
F15E soundscripts made
All jets now have a dive alarm
Adjusted M2A3 internal sound levels
Desert Patrol Vehicle sounds and soundscripts created
Apache sounds improved
DC Oil Fields objects given soundscripts and sounds
Updated SA-3
New F-14B with dumb bombs



.4H
increased mindev on Coax mg's
Fixed Hind Sounds
Changed hind to be more like the real thing, made fars 64 and 4 AT's
Increased Artillery gun turret speed a tad
Introduced a more realistic weapons damage system
Fixed oSA material

Firearm changes
AKM: 7.62x39, fire rate 650rpm, decent accuracy, considerable recoil
AK74SU: 5.56mm, fire rate 800rpm, moderate accuracy, heavy recoil
PKM: 7.62x54, fire rate 600rpm, decent accuracy, considerable recoil
Pistols: 9mm, poor accuracy, good handling on the move
M16: 5.56mm, fire rate 800rpm, good accuracy, light recoil
MP5:9mm, fire rate 800rpm, fair accuracy, v. light recoil, good handling on the move
M249: 5.56mm, fire rate 800rpg, decent accuracy, light recoil

Power ratings for projectiles:
.50 cal (heavy damage vs. soft, light damage vs medium armor)
7.62x54 (2 shot kill, mod damage vs soft, minor dmg vs light armor)
7.62 x 39 (3 shot kill, light damage vs soft)
5.56mm (3 shot kill, light damage vs. soft)
9mm (4-5 shot kill, no damage vs soft)

.4G

Replaced AC-130 with F-14 on El_Alamein
Replaced F-16 with F-15c on EL_Alamein
Added SA-3 Texture
Added Spec ops hat
Added new M16, AK47, UH-60, M249 and PKM sounds
Added OSA to Midway, GuadalCanal and Midway
Added Artillary calling to MDT, HUmvee's and Technicals
Added SA-3 to Oil Fields
Updated Docks board, Added Technicals and made it much harder for US to win
Added Mirage to El_Alamein
Added SA3 to El_Alamein
Updated Weapons Bunkers
Updated M23 and PSS weapons
Added F-15c to Bocage
Updated Stinger Damage for 2 hits on Helis
Updated F-14 from Brian to allow guided second position rockets
Added F-15c
Fixed F-14 to work online
Updated Lada and Pickup truck textures
Fixed ZPU, it now causes correct damagae to aircraft
lowered BMP2 hitpoints to match that of M2a3
Added OSA Icon
Fixed M249/PKM damage against planes, helicopters
Matched BMP2 rocket rate of fire with that of the M2A3
Fixed Mig29 Col mesh
Lowered Smoke on Heli Rockets for performance
Added DC Battle of Medina Ridge map
Added DC Basrah Edge City Map
Added Weapons Bunker Search and Destroy Map

Balanced Artillary, Added longer range bullets, Increased Armor, Slowed down turret rotation significantly, increased power against heavy armor

Made Hellfires take 2 shots to kill heavy tanks, 1 shot on everything else.
Increased Hydra power slightly against some armour
Added 2 more mags of Anti Tank Rockets to Hind for balancing
Allow Hind passengers to exit without opening the doors for positions 4 and 5.

Changed BMP2 to have rocket launcher active on position 1, balanced against m2a3
Added new Class menus
Lowered rate of fire of PKM and M249 to match real world weapons

Lowered M249/PKM against helicopters and planes.
Reverted M16 Sound
Slowed the stinger down to require more skill when shooting
Added Tracers to M249/PKM


Added Civilian Pickup Truck
Added Opposition Pickup truck with .50 Cal machine gun
Added Opposition Pickup truck with Recoiless Rifle
Added Civilian Car
Added Opposition Mirage
Added Opposition OSA anti-Ship boat
Added new Opposition Guided SA-3 Sam Site
Added new Stinger Model and Skin
Added new A-10 Cockpit

SoBeiT
09-14-2003, 10:11 PM
So we'll be running this here, Stealth?

radio667
09-14-2003, 10:35 PM
Do we down load this :confused: ......now ???

SoBeiT
09-14-2003, 11:01 PM
Not until you know if the server is running it I think, Radio.

I wait until Stealth posts.

MadMikey
09-14-2003, 11:42 PM
You can download it now, just don't install it until we get the server upgraded. :D

StealthDP
09-14-2003, 11:47 PM
Should have the server upgraded tomorrow... I will post when it is done.

radio667
09-15-2003, 06:35 AM
Thank You :D Sobeeeee , BirthdayMikey and Mr Stealth !!!

SFT
09-15-2003, 09:11 AM
Damn, the files are getting big! 586 megs? I hate to try dl'ing that with a 56k modem. :moon:

Hey, I know, I'll install it now and then I can yell and scream that none of the servers are compatible. :lol:

I see lots of new maps. Kewl! :D

Hey a pick up truck! Is there Hank Williams Jr. playing on the radio? Does it come with a dog in the back?

Paladin
09-15-2003, 09:26 AM
Hey a pick up truck! Does it come with a dog in the back?


Yes. He gets out and sniffs for mines when Ink drives.

Paladin
09-15-2003, 09:36 AM
Ok, I'm not sure I'm going to like all the changes, but one caught my eye... the F-14 is a 2 seater, with guided missiles for the rear seater. I sure hope they're skinned for VF-103, the Jolly Rogers.

SoBeiT
09-15-2003, 09:41 AM
.....Hey a pick up truck! Is there Hank Williams Jr. playing on the radio? Does it come with a dog in the back?

Does this mean Zinia will start playing BF if it includes a gun rack? :D

StealthDP
09-15-2003, 10:35 AM
I am taking the server down now to perform the upgrade. Should be back online shortly...

StealthDP
09-15-2003, 11:35 AM
Ok, it is back online, running on .4... ENJOY!

The_Stranger
09-15-2003, 11:48 AM
Damn, the files are getting big! 586 megs? I hate to try dl'ing that with a 56k modem. :moon:

Hey, I know, I'll install it now and then I can yell and scream that none of the servers are compatible. :lol:

I see lots of new maps. Kewl! :D

Hey a pick up truck! Is there Hank Williams Jr. playing on the radio? Does it come with a dog in the back?


I used the patch version, which is about half the size--no problems so far, although I have barely played played it.

The BMP is now far more dangerous to armour, and the various civvy vehicles and technicals are a lot of fun. No radios, unfortunately. The new maps are interesting too -- a big change from the usual air/armor brawl. looks like a fun upgrade!

radio667
09-15-2003, 11:48 AM
WOW , I saw the DC .4 video ..... :rockon: Im still amazed by how it looks and plays - I CANT WAIT TO TEST IT OUT ONLINE !!!

radio667
09-15-2003, 11:52 AM
The BMP is now far more dangerous to armour, and the various civvy vehicles and technicals are a lot of fun. No radios, unfortunately.
:cry: I have been blacklisted - D'OH !!!!

The_Stranger
09-15-2003, 11:59 AM
:cry: I have been blacklisted - D'OH !!!!

Maybe you can hum Hank Williams Jr. songs to us on Teamspeak?

|Robot|Bender
09-15-2003, 12:01 PM
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY!!!

Guess i know what I'M doing tonight.

GET THE PATCH UP FOOZ!

radio667
09-15-2003, 01:02 PM
Maybe you can hum Hank Williams Jr. songs to us on Teamspeak?
Cool , I'll bring da inner-net radio noisez to u guyz ...OLD SKOOL style ;) !! - btw - DARK CITY OWNZ !!!!

ElectricHead
09-15-2003, 01:13 PM
I got it this morning but I havent had a chance to try it out.
From the look of the changes, I have just one thing to say:
Your all going to die. :moon:



EH

Mudhammer
09-15-2003, 01:17 PM
Good! Hopefully we'll see more of EH and Ink than we have...slackers. Haven't seen stapuf much lately either.
I'll be d/l-ing after work, maybe we can get some games going tonight.

StealthDP
09-15-2003, 01:21 PM
I am in for some gaming tonite!

radio667
09-15-2003, 01:27 PM
Oh Man , i get the feeling tonight is going to get CRAZY :D Count me in !!

Inkswitch
09-15-2003, 06:08 PM
Good! Hopefully we'll see more of EH and Ink than we have...slackers. Haven't seen stapuf much lately either.
I'll be d/l-ing after work, maybe we can get some games going tonight.


hehe

I have been playing with my 9800Pro the last couple weeks. I got it up to 510/370 on watercooling. :D

A little Tron thrown in as well.

I'll be there tonight.

You may fear now.

:ink:

Play
09-15-2003, 06:43 PM
Sorry guys, I won't be able to make it. As usual my Internet connection with Cox is hitting the crapper, but today it seems to hit an all-time low. I'm sitting here pinging the server, as well as some other sites, and I'm getting a 25% packet loss. 3D Tracert is showing a number of Cox backbone routers are dropping packets like it's nobody's business. Alas, currently setting a date with a Cox tech and giving him a piece of my mind. I refuse to pay for this crappy quality of service!! :ink: :mad: x 2

Inkswitch
09-15-2003, 07:06 PM
Sorry guys, I won't be able to make it. As usual my Internet connection with Cox is hitting the crapper, but today it seems to hit an all-time low. I'm sitting here pinging the server, as well as some other sites, and I'm getting a 25% packet loss. 3D Tracert is showing a number of Cox backbone routers are dropping packets like it's nobody's business. Alas, currently setting a date with a Cox tech and giving him a piece of my mind. I refuse to pay for this crappy quality of service!! :ink: :mad: x 2

Any chance you can get DSL?
I switched from Cox and I am pretty happy now.

SFT
09-15-2003, 07:08 PM
*
Lowered rate of fire of PKM and M249 to match real world weapons
Lowered M249/PKM against helicopters and planes.
*

Well, they trashed the heavy machine guns. They overheat now also. They're completely useless. Maybe, I'll just run around and stab people in the face (or run them over with my pick up truck and let the dog eat them -- while humming a Hank Williams Jr. tune).

Paladin
09-15-2003, 08:29 PM
Sorry guys, I won't be able to make it. As usual my Internet connection with Cox is hitting the crapper, but today it seems to hit an all-time low. I'm sitting here pinging the server, as well as some other sites, and I'm getting a 25% packet loss. 3D Tracert is showing a number of Cox backbone routers are dropping packets like it's nobody's business. Alas, currently setting a date with a Cox tech and giving him a piece of my mind. I refuse to pay for this crappy quality of service!! :ink: :mad: x 2

I had the same problem with Charter last year, and it's creeping back again. Calling tech support is completely useless. I spent 2 months doing that. If it's like Charter, it's an 800 number to timbuktu...even if you call the local number, it's forwarded to a call center someplace. Even if you can get a tech to come out, it's unlikely they will be able to follow up even if they can see the problem. The tech who came here was seeing pings of 600+ from the connection on the telephone pole back to their first router using his test meter. From my PC, it was possible (1 in 50 or so) to get that up to 2000+. Battlefield was completely unplayable, along with the rest of my FPS'ers, but I could browse fine.

From my experience, your best bet is to file a complaint with your local Better Business Buearu. That's what I did, just complete the online form on their web site. Within 48 hours, I was in contact with the local General Manager and within 72 hours I was e-mailing traceroutes to the local Service Manager. It still took a couple of weeks for them to admit they oversold the circuit and it was a bandwidth sharing issue, but they finally did and upped the allocated bandwidth. I'm starting to see signs that the problem may be starting to occur again, but once they did the upgrade my pings went back to normal and I was getting 300k/sec easy on downloads (previously it had maxed at around 150k/sec).

You can get to the national BBB at http://www.bbb.org and link to your local branch from there.

SoBeiT
09-15-2003, 10:39 PM
When I had Cox Cable problems for 5 to 6 weeks the tech called the tic and he handled my problem.

He solved it too.

SoBeiT
09-15-2003, 11:52 PM
Those later games were good ones..thanks all :)

radio667
09-16-2003, 12:01 AM
FUN :D Games - I Agree !!!

The_Stranger
09-16-2003, 06:42 AM
That last game of Tobruk rocked--I haven't played such a balanced game in ages.

Btw, the new stingers rock too!

radio667
09-16-2003, 07:08 AM
So far i like the new patch....but for the life of me - i can not hit an enemy tank . Not even at point blank - more so if its Stealth drivng that metal cheese box o' death ;)

Budly
09-16-2003, 08:41 AM
Wake Island crashed me to the desktop twice last nite. Both times nothing unusual was happening, just cruising along minding my own business and then desktop. No messages, warnings or errors. :(

SoBeiT
09-16-2003, 08:47 AM
Wake Island was my freeze point also. Only problem I had all night.


Went back in and game was just fine again.

The_Stranger
09-16-2003, 09:02 AM
Wake Island was my freeze point also. Only problem I had all night.


Went back in and game was just fine again.

Yep, Wake Island was fine for a while, and then went bananas. I was llagging so bad, I couldn't hit the disconnect button (mouse was jumping around too much) and I had to end task.

|Robot|Bender
09-16-2003, 10:00 AM
I generally kicked ass...until my woman wanted to go have some drinks..so i split and then had lots of sex and then came back and everyone was gone.........AND I WAS LIKE...WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

radio667
09-16-2003, 10:07 AM
I generally kicked ass...until my woman wanted to go have some drinks..so i split and then had lots of sex and then came back and everyone was gone.........AND I WAS LIKE...WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
:rockon:

Play
09-16-2003, 10:17 AM
I had the same problem with Charter last year, and it's creeping back again. Calling tech support is completely useless. I spent 2 months doing that. If it's like Charter, it's an 800 number to timbuktu...even if you call the local number, it's forwarded to a call center someplace. Even if you can get a tech to come out, it's unlikely they will be able to follow up even if they can see the problem. The tech who came here was seeing pings of 600+ from the connection on the telephone pole back to their first router using his test meter. From my PC, it was possible (1 in 50 or so) to get that up to 2000+. Battlefield was completely unplayable, along with the rest of my FPS'ers, but I could browse fine.

From my experience, your best bet is to file a complaint with your local Better Business Buearu. That's what I did, just complete the online form on their web site. Within 48 hours, I was in contact with the local General Manager and within 72 hours I was e-mailing traceroutes to the local Service Manager. It still took a couple of weeks for them to admit they oversold the circuit and it was a bandwidth sharing issue, but they finally did and upped the allocated bandwidth. I'm starting to see signs that the problem may be starting to occur again, but once they did the upgrade my pings went back to normal and I was getting 300k/sec easy on downloads (previously it had maxed at around 150k/sec).

You can get to the national BBB at http://www.bbb.org and link to your local branch from there.

Just filed a complaint with the BBB. We'll see what kind of response we'll get back from Cox. :ink:

Zinia
09-17-2003, 06:25 AM
Does this mean Zinia will start playing BF if it includes a gun rack? :D

:lol:


I have been playing but I'm sure my skills are nowhere near all of you so I'm askeered to jump online. Too many buttons not enough time. ;)

SoBeiT
09-17-2003, 12:02 PM
Well don't use them all, just key what you need.

When in a group lack of skills are less apparent I find. Pick someone to shadow and have some fun Zinia ;)

StealthDP
09-17-2003, 01:06 PM
Yeah, c'mon in Zinia! We will take it easy on you! Multiplayer is where it is at!

ElectricHead
09-17-2003, 01:43 PM
Yeah, c'mon in Zinia! We will take it easy on you! Multiplayer is where it is at!


Yeah. We will take it easy on you... :bash:


EH

|Robot|Bender
09-17-2003, 02:13 PM
Just don't get in between me and Inkswitch....

StealthDP
09-17-2003, 02:31 PM
Ink sux... besides, I scared him away from BF...

Inkswitch
09-17-2003, 02:37 PM
C;mon, Zinia!

It's a total team effort. This game is not friendly to uber-elite like UT is. It is ALL about the team. Anybody can help the team.

And, Single Player BF SUCKS. Multiplayer is where all the fun is.

Get your ass on the server.

Zinia
09-17-2003, 05:03 PM
I just jumped on for a bit hoping there would be some takers and making sure I was patched correctly.

I'll try to find some time tonight for a game or two.

MadMikey
09-17-2003, 05:14 PM
.....and so it begins.

:D

Inkswitch
09-17-2003, 05:24 PM
Just don't get in between me and Inkswitch....

Yes. Then, I would kill you instead of Bender. :moon: